ROD: This is Rod Santomassimo of The Massimo Group. Today I have a special guest, Mr. Brad Umansky, author of the recently launched Value Added—Successful Strategies for Listing and Selling Investment Real Estate. Brad, thank you and welcome.
BRAD: Good morning, Rod, and thank you.
ROD: Well, I’ve got to tell you. I got to preview your book and I love it. I know you well from your success but tell us a little bit about Brad and why Brad has written this book.
BRAD: Sure, thanks Rod. I started about 18 years in the commercial real estate business, the brokerage business. I’ve been a broker all of that time and a good chunk of that time was spent selling investment real estate. And I frequently would encounter transactions I was working on, situations I was working on, listing appointments that I was involved with. And I would look for a resource that would help me in that process and I realized there wasn’t anything out there. So after selling $500 million worth of shopping centers of over 100 separate individual transactions, I sat down, basically back in the latter part of 2008 when there was a lull in the market and started writing.
And it was actually a book that I had thought about probably about five years earlier, written an outline for it and never really found the time to write it. I was sitting there in the latter part of 2008. The market was very quiet. I said to myself, if there’s ever a better time to right the book this is it. If I don’t do it now I’ll never do it. So I started writing and in about 30 days I was about 150 pages into it. I quickly realized that it was time, that once I was 150 pages into it I needed to finish it. It’s been a long process but the book is now out and I’m very excited about it.
ROD: Here’s why I love the book. It seems to me when I was growing up and learning about the real estate business, the investment side, there’s so many books on how to invest in commercial real estate. When you become a broker, which I did, as well as mentored and tutored and worked with thousands of brokers, it seems that we always gave brokers material on what was a certain asset, retail shopping centers, office buildings but we had materials to teach them specifically “How” to broker. Your book seems to be unique.
BRAD: It’s completely unique and the reason why it’s unique is it’s actually written by a broker who’s done lots and lots of transactions. And more importantly, so much of what’s out there and so much of what the brokerage companies teach is just the initial sales part of the process. Investment sales is unique. It’s not just the selling process. You actually have to be able to prospect and find potential payout buyers and sellers of property. You actually have to be able to market the transaction and you actually have to be able to handle the escrow, handle the closing process. And this book covers all of it.
It’s broken up into five sections. The first section’s about getting started in the business. So for those people that are getting started, it outlines personality traits and things you should know when you’re just getting started. After that it goes to how do you go out there and just pick a market. Are you going to be an office broker in Atlanta or are you going to be an industrial broker in Chicago? Depending on where you are, are you going to handle a 15 mile radius, a 500 mile radius? What are you going to do? And then how are you actually going to find people to call and how do you place initial phone calls? And how do you turn cold calls into warm calls?
And then you take that whole—after you’re done with that section too and you maybe have this opportunity now to go do a proposal, it takes you through the entire proposal process. Then you actually get the assignment and it takes you through how to put together a marketing package that actually will be a marketing package to sell the asset. What should you know when you’re marketing the properties? How do you market the properties?
Now you actually have a buyer. How do you negotiate a letter of intent? What things should be included in the letter of intent? How do you handle the purchase agreement? It just takes you through all the steps and that’s the part that I realized most importantly was never really taught at most brokerage companies that I’ve been exposed to. It’s always been kind of this you’re trying to figure it out as you go along.
This is really a step-by-step guide that somebody can pull out at any point in their career and say, okay, I need due diligence materials for this property that I’m about to sell. It would be really great to have a list of due diligence materials that I should be asking the seller for. Well there’s a list of due diligence materials in the book that you can just go down the list and figure out which things you want to ask the seller for and which things should the seller be providing. That’s what makes it so unique is that it really is a step-by-step process and it’s really geared toward the entire sales process and it’s written for brokers by a broker.
ROD: Now Brad, when I asked you who you were just for my audience clarification you were—as you’ve always been—very modest and there’s no doubt you’ve been a top producer on both national firm based, in a couple of national firms, and then in your own firm now and a very competitive market in Southern California. So my question to you is, and you mentioned a little bit about marketplaces, is this book just for commercial retail sales as far as shopping centers or is this for asset class?
BRAD: Sure, let me briefly take you through before I—I didn’t fully answer your question. I graduated from the University of Pennsylvania, the Wharton School of Business, in 1990. I shortly thereafter moved out to Southern California where I started working in the shopping center business. Over the course of an 18-year brokerage career I’ve transacted both lease and sales transactions. I’ve been involved in over 600 lease transactions, over 100 investment sale transactions, a total consideration of well over $700 million.
I’ve worked at Lee and Associates, Grubb & Ellis and then I spent seven years at Sperry Van Ness where in most of those years I was in what they called the ‘partner’s circle’ of Sperry Van Ness. And I was consistently over the course of those seven years in the top 3% of all brokers at the company. And I frequently was involved in training at the company and helped to teach other brokers.
And that was really one of the motivations for the book is that I just saw so many brokers over the course of the years that were desperate for somebody to help them, beyond the sales manager. The sales manager can be a great resource but, unless you’re in the trenches day in and day out, that’s where you’re really dealing of the nuances of a transaction.
And so now, going to your actual question, the book is written for all geographies and all product types. That was actually one of the challenges that I faced when I was writing the book was that I had to make sure I related it to industrial, mobile homes, multifamily, Chicago, Atlanta, Houston. So wherever you are in the country, and actually wherever you are in the world, the book is applicable toward any sale of property that involves income, which in my world that’s what makes it an investment property. As long as there is income coming into the property, it is considered investment real estate.
ROD: Okay. Then the final question I need to ask, it’s a tremendous book, a great read, very comprehensive. It seems like someone must have done this book before. If not, how come this book never existed?
BRAD: You know, when I first started to write the book I went out and I went online and I searched all over the place. I basically never found a book that was like this. I found one book that was written by a gentleman in the `70s and another guy wrote one in the `80s. It seems like once a decade someone takes a shot at it. But it seems that everyone that writes the book do it from a technical perspective. What is a triple net lease? What is a full service gross lease? What is percentage rent?
One of the other people that wrote a book wrote a chapter that was called selling to rich people and it effectively said that selling to rich people was easier than selling to not rich people so you should try to sell to rich people. I heard this and I thought well if that’s the best that somebody can do there’s a real opportunity. And what I realize now in hindsight is why this book hasn’t been written is because, first of all, successful brokers in general don’t want to share their secrets because they don’t want to encourage competition. That’s one.
Two is, successful brokers don’t have the time to write a book. I just happened to be very fortunate in the fact that in the latter part of 2007 I made a decision to actually get out of brokerage for a short period of time with the intention of doing some development work and some investment work. Well, as we all know the world changed dramatically, especially in Southern California, in 2007 and 2008. So I woke up in October of 2008 twiddling my thumbs a little bit. And so I realized there was this unique opportunity to get something done and I actually had the time to do it.
You know, looking back, I realize I don’t know if I’ll ever have that kind of time again to write something of this nature. So that’s why I think this type of book hasn’t been written. There just isn’t—first of all you have to have motivation to do it. Second, you have to have the knowledge to do it. Third, you have to have the time to do it. And putting all those things together is a difficult thing to make happen. So I’m very excited that I got to the finish line. I’m really proud of the work. I think people are really going to benefit from the product.
ROD: I certainly agree with you Brad. It is a phenomenal book, a great read and I highly endorse it regardless of your level of success currently in commercial real estate brokerage. If you’re brand new to the business it is a fantastic read and a great book. And most importantly it’s not something you put on your shelf after reading and say that was nice. It’s a reference guide more than anything else that you go back to time and time again throughout your commercial real estate brokerage career.
So Brad Umansky, thank you very much for both writing the book as well as your valuable time today and sharing your thoughts with us.
BRAD: Thank you, Rod. Thanks for your help and thanks for being someone who really helped and supported. As I started the process very early on you’ve been a great resource throughout this entire time. Thank you.
ROD: Well, thank you. Until then, this is Rod Santomassimo of The Massimo Group and we’ll talk to you down the road.